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David Gray on record sales /The Guardian

Last post Sat, Nov 12 2011, 2:06 PM by sigmadelta. 5 replies.
  • David Gray on record sales /The Guardian 749110

     Sat, Oct 29 2011, 1:25 AM

    David gets quite a long mention in an article published by The Guardian on October 28. Thanks to Ciarán who has sent this to me.

    This is an interesting article about the way record companies handle artists and record sales. Here is an excerpt with what David told them but it is well worth reading in full here

    I need to say though that the article's main theme does not fully apply to David who may not reach the sale numbers of White Ladder anymore but then who does nowadays. The fact that Foundling has reached no. 8 on the US Billboard charts does not get a mention but then this article is from the UK.

    When bands fall off cliffs

    You sell a couple million albums. You're adored. Then 90% of your fanbase deserts you – and your record label isn't far behind. Rob Fitzpatrick investigates band collapse syndrome.

    [...]

    "Radio is still it," agrees Feargal Sharkey, the former Undertones singer who now heads UK Music, an umbrella organisation representing the UK's commercial music industry. "If you have no support from radio, you're finished. You can recover from this situation, but you're aware the next big thing is always more exciting than last week's big thing."

    Singer-songwriter David Gray was the opposite of the next big thing when he released his White Ladder album in 2000. Gray's fourth record was expected to sell in similarly modest proportions to the previous three. But a groundswell started by the second single, Babylon, eventually drove sales over the 7m mark.

    "What helped me is that I'd been making music for a while when the success came," he says over the phone from Italy, where he is on holiday with his family. "I could handle it better. But the period after the success is always very difficult. If Radio 1 or Radio 2 don't playlist your record, it has a profound impact on your sales. When the BBC decided to play Babylon, all hell broke loose, but if you don't keep that up then you end up back in the Borderline – and when you've got used to the Hammersmith Apollo, that can be very depressing."

    What did that journey upwards through success feel like?

    "Oh, it's amazingly exhilarating," he says with a laugh. "But success like that blows your compass completely, it's so heavy, so all-enveloping. You do begin to think that perhaps you are God's gift. I spent three years touring White Ladder, but when the festivals and the champagne and the private planes suddenly stop, when reality kicks in again, the shock is numbing."

    More recently, Gray cheerfully admits, his sales figures have "drastically reduced". Where once he might sell 1m copies, he'll now sell 200,000. His latest album (the live set Lost and Found) was digitally released for its first week exclusively through Groupon. The deal-of-the-day site emailed a link to half a million subscribers – "We have a very similar demographic, apparently" – and there was around a 1.5% take up.

    "That's between 5,000 and 10,000 copies sold," he says. "Is that a success or a miserable failure? I've been working a lot in America over the last few years and it's extremely hard work selling any records at all. The figures have become pitifully small. The industry is on its knees."

     

     


     
  • Re: David Gray on record sales /The Guardian 749111 in reply to 749110

     Sat, Oct 29 2011, 1:27 AM

    That is interesting indeed. A phenomenon all David Gray fans are familiar with. Record labels are terrible in most cases. I think the secret to keep going after the one big record is a solid committed fan base who will come and see the gigs. David still sells out places like the Hammersmith Apollo/London and the Beacon/NYC without any advertising. With all the streaming, downloading, sharing theses days record sales have dropped for everyone so gigs and merchandize are what artists live off today.

    In addition I have a strong feeling that many radio listeners just aren't willling to go as deep as David does with his songs. On the radio it's mostly easy listening rubbish with only a few adward winning shows which clearly are the exceptions. It's the same with literature. The high quality publications are hardly on the best seller lists but they do have a solid base of readers just as David's outstanding music has a commited base of followers.


     
  • Re: David Gray on record sales /The Guardian 749114 in reply to 749111

     Sun, Oct 30 2011, 4:09 PM

    I also think that he is not seeking the pop world.  He knew Foundling was not going to be a commercial success and came right out and said it while promoting it!  It's not like he's trying to break back into that world and flopping.  He's doing his own thing for the most part.  There have only been a handful of songs in the last few years that could get radio play by any stretch of the imagination.  He'd have to change how he does things to be mainstream again, and he is not willing to do that.  Only ones like A Moment Changes Everything seem to be attempts at radio pop, but that one didn't even make the regular album.

     
  • Re: David Gray on record sales /The Guardian 749180 in reply to 749114

     Thu, Nov 10 2011, 10:09 AM
    I have recently been on a few long journeys using the car radio for company. BBC channels1! and 2 and the local radio channels play the more popular recards that are obviously going to make the charts stay there for a few weeks then totally dissappear; but they played them over and over again which became quite tedious and boring after a while. I agree we need a radio station soley for music such as David Gray's genre - there are so many artists that we don't hear enough of that have worked hard over the years sustained their standards and stayed the course. 
     
  • Re: David Gray on record sales /The Guardian 749181 in reply to 749180

     Thu, Nov 10 2011, 1:04 PM
    Are you able to get Sirius/XM over there?  There are a ton of channels, including several that give DG decent airplay.  I've even heard tracks like Flame Turns Blue and live versions of some his songs.  I get to hear lots of artists that don't get played at all on regular, mainstream radio.  I hate having to pay for radio, but anytime I listen to regular radio, I'm quickly reminded of how much more I enjoy satellite!
     
  • Re: David Gray on record sales /The Guardian 749188 in reply to 749181

     Sat, Nov 12 2011, 2:06 PM
    Thanks for the advice ropreston - I think I can get Sirius/XM through the computer. If so I may be able to get it to play on my Roberts internet radio - my brother deals with all things technical and is coming over tomorrow to have a good look (in return I walk his dog when he's at work). Thanks once again.
     
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